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'That's insanity': Ramsey blows his top over $80K car debt cosigned by grandma, and issues warning about predatory loans

When Noel, 24, dialed into The Ramsey Show hoping for advice on homeownership, he probably didn’t expect to get a financial intervention instead (1).

His question was simple enough: Was he ready to buy a house? But as soon as he mentioned his car payment amount — US$1,200 a month — Dave Ramsey and cohost Rachel Cruze knew something was seriously wrong.

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The hosts pressed him to explain the numbers. How much did he actually owe on the vehicle? Noel’s answer stopped them cold: US$80,000 on a US$60,000 salary.

Ramsey didn’t hold back. “Let me, as kindly as I possibly can, say: That’s insanity."

Noel tried to explain. He didn’t actually want the car, he said — instead, his parents “basically forced” him to buy it after his previous car started having issues.

That defense didn’t land: “You have a lot of excuses,” Ramsey fired back. “You’re a 24-year-old man. Your parents don’t force you to do anything.”

Cruze jumped in, pointing out that Noel was deflecting responsibility. But she also asked a practical question: How did someone earning US$60,000 a year even qualify for an US$80,000 car loan in the first place?

That’s when the real story came out. Noel had traded in his previous car — which he was already US$30,000 underwater on — and rolled that debt into the new loan. And to get approved? His grandmother cosigned the loan, making her legally responsible to repay the remaining balance if he defaults.

The tone immediately shifted. “You have an extreme car crisis on your hands, and your grandmother is at risk,” Ramsey said. “I’m very afraid for her right now.”

His advice was blunt: Forget the house. Focus every available dollar on paying off the car loan before it destroys both Noel’s and his grandmother’s finances.

How family pressure creates a debt spiral

What makes Noel’s situation particularly painful was more than an indiscretion — it was bad judgment compounded by family pressure.

He made the mistake of getting underwater on his first car. But the decision to pile on even more debt — and drag his grandmother into the mess by asking her to cosign — came from family expectations about what kind of car he should be driving.

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By the end of the call, Ramsey expanded his financial wisdom beyond Noel's specific case, addressing everyone listening who’s ever been pressured into a financial disaster by well-meaning relatives.

His message to grandparents who cosign? “Attention grandmothers, 100% of the time you cosign, you’re stupid."

Harsh words, but his point was clear: Cosigning a loan puts your own financial security at risk, while trapping someone who isn’t ready to manage that level of debt — otherwise, they wouldn’t need a cosigner.

His message to parents pushing their kids into buying expensive cars? “Parents, quit telling people to buy crap they can’t afford ’cause your grandbabies are riding in it. Unless you’re writing a freaking cheque, shut up!”

And his message to predatory lenders who greenlight loans like this? He called them out as “crackheads” by exploiting financially vulnerable people.

No one escaped his acerbic tongue. As Ramsey pointed out, everyone involved — Noel, his parents, his grandmother, the lender — were adults who made the choices that created a crisis.

“This is the problem: You guys get victimized by these stinking car companies. Quit lining up like sheep to the slaughter.”

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Why this matters to Canadians too

Noel’s story played out on an American podcast, but the problem isn’t limited to the U.S.: Canadians are drowning in car debt at alarming rates.

The data paints a troubling picture. Roughly half of all auto loans in Canada now stretch to seven years or longer, and eight-year terms are becoming increasingly common (2).

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Monthly car payments typically fall between C$500 for used and almost C$800 for new vehicles (3). Take note, these are average amounts, meaning the real monthly payments for a new car could reach over C$1,000.

But here’s where it gets really concerning: Three in 10 Canadians who trade in their vehicles are underwater — meaning they owe more than the vehicle’s worth (4). And the average negative equity rings in at C$6,700. That’s thousands of dollars in old debt rolled into new loans, creating the same trap Noel fell into.

The consequences are piling up, as the delinquency rate change year-over-year as of 2025 rose 14.31% according to data from Equifax (5).

What’s driving this crisis? A lot of it traces back to the pandemic.

Daniel Ross from Canadian Black Book explained that buyers who purchased vehicles during COVID-era supply shortages paid inflated prices at a time when demand was sky-high and inventory was scarce (6). Now that the market has recovered and prices have dropped, those same buyers are stuck owing more than their cars are currently worth.

Setting financial boundaries with family

When parents start insisting you need a “safer” or “more reliable” car — especially if there are grandchildren involved — it can feel impossible to decline. The pressure is real and it’s emotional.

While having an honest conversation about what you can actually afford might be uncomfortable in the moment, it’ll be better than years of crushing debt and damaged relationships — and credit — further down the line.

Start by being transparent about your financial reality. You don’t need to share every detail, but giving family members a clear picture of your budget can help them understand your choices.

If you genuinely need a new vehicle, do your homework before anyone else weighs in. Research reliable used options that fit your actual budget — not what your parents think you should be able to afford. Pull up safety ratings and reliability data so you can show concerned family members that you’re prioritizing safety without breaking the bank.

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And if someone offers to cosign to “help,” you get approved for a bigger loan, proceed with extreme caution.

Under Canadian law, cosigners are fully responsible for the entire loan (7). If you can’t make the payments, lenders can — and will — come after your cosigner for everything you owe. What looks like a generous gesture can turn into a financial disaster for both of you, especially if it’s enabling you to take on debt you realistically can’t handle.

Halifax financial planner Ben Mayhew offered this advice: If you’re already underwater on your loan, your best bet is usually to keep the car and chip away at the debt. “It’s wisest to work with the devil, so to speak, as opposed to getting into something else — a new scenario (8)."

In other words, don’t make the problem worse by trading in and rolling negative equity into yet another loan.

Instead, auto finance experts say the golden rule is simple: Keep your financing term to five years or less, budget for the true cost of ownership — including fuel, insurance, maintenance and depreciation — and only sign for a car you can comfortably afford (9).

You future self will thank you, and so will your family member.

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Bottom line

Noel’s US$80,000 car loan is an extreme case, but it’s a wake-up call for some very universal experiences: runaway auto debt, family dynamics that make bad decisions worse and lenders willing to approve loans that never should have happened.

If relatives are pressuring you to take on car debt you know you can’t manage, here's what you must remember: No one — not your parents, your in-laws, or even your well-meaning grandmother — gets to make financial decisions that put your future at risk.

— with files from Melanie Huddart

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Youtube (1); Home Grail (2, 4); Experian (3); Equifax (5); Moosejaw Today (6, 8, 9); hellosafe (7)

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